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2006

Tim O'Reilly

Tim O'Reilly

Real Sharing vs. Fake Sharing

In a recent brainstorming session about Web 2.0, I made the observation that "harnessing collective intelligence" is the pattern that opened the Web 2.0 era, but that "Data is the Intel Inside" is the pattern that will bring it to a close. (See What is Web 2.0? for a definition of these patterns.)

It is in this context that I want to bring to your attention a thoughtful blog posting by the ever-insightful Larry Lessig, entitled The Ethics of Web 2.0:

"There’s an important distinction developing among “user generated content” sites — the distinction between sites that permit “true sharing” and those that permit only what I’ll call “fake sharing.”

A “true sharing” site doesn’t try to exercise ultimate control over the content it serves. It permits, in other words, content to move as users choose.

A “fake sharing” site, by contrast, gives you tools to make seem as if there’s sharing, but in fact, all the tools drive traffic and control back to a single site.

YouTube comes in for a bit of a tongue-lashing from Larry, being singled out as a "fake sharing" site. Larry notes that "YouTube gives users very cool code to either “embed” content on other sites, or to effectively send links of content to other sites. But never does the system give users an easy way to actually get the content someone else has uploaded."

I'm not sure that Larry's entirely right about YouTube, but I believe that he's entirely right about the importance of the "true sharing" principle.

YouTube actually did a better job of sharing video than anyone else in the video space -- that's why they are so successful. They are masters of virality. Their embedding tools are the key to their success, not just that they were "cooler." Even "fake sharing" is better than no sharing, which is what we had before. (After all, a lot of the problem of "getting the content" isn't YouTube's. We don't have the same free tools for managing and editing video that we have for photos. If Adobe had a lightweight Flash authoring environment that could be deployed as easily as YouTube's Flash sharing tool, that could bring video on the web to a whole new level... )

But Larry's on to something. I've been seeing the distinction that he makes coming more and more into focus as a defining issue for Web 2.0. Google has been a key enabler of the decentralized nature of the net -- they make other sites more visible, distributing attention, rather than concentrating it. But some of the newer sites, and the newer applications from Google and the other big guys, are increasingly aimed at centralizing user activity and user data.

This is true of GMail, of Orkut, and of Google Calendar. Google Maps could have been such a centralization play, but because of the brilliant hackers who built the first mashups, it's instead been liberated as a "real sharing" service.

I've been concerned about this switchboard vs. repository issue very specifically with Google Book Search. While I've come to the defense of Google over their library project, and overall, I believe that GBS is a very good thing for the publishing industry, it's essential that Google remember their heritage, as a distributor of attention, rather than trying to make their sites sticky (Web 1.0). Because publishers have been slow to put their books online, there's been nothing to search. Now that Google has gone to the expense of creating an online book repository, will they have the courage to set that content loose, either licensing it back to publishers for use in other contexts, or in the case of public domain content, releasing not just the scanned images but also the text? Will they create an integrated search that includes other online book repositories (Amazon's, or publisher sites like Safari), or will they insist that book search means only "Google book search"?

These are unresolved issues, and I do worry that the YouTube acquisition moves Google's model from switchboard to repository, and I'm not sure that's good for the company's DNA. So I'm hoping that Google will remember Eric Schmidt's dictum, "Don't fight the internet," and will work to make both YouTube and services like Google Book Search progressively more open, not progressively more closed.

Evidence is strong, though, that top management at Google understands this distinction, and wants to open up all their services. What folks like Larry remind us, though, is that even people of good will need to be reminded from time to time about the choices they face. Web 2.0 is still a work in progress. We can get it right, or we can screw it up.


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  atom probe [10.23.06 06:12 AM]

Larry points out, "And I am told (though I’ve not yet seen how to do it), Google Videos can be download to a machine." I actually think the links in the google video sidebar to download an avi or mp4 are prominent & set them apart from any of the other video sharing sites. This seems to be "real" sharing. Some content on google videos isn't shared due to copyright restrictions placed on it by the content owner. But people can download nearly all of the user-contributed content. The only way to watch a youtube video on an iPod or PSP or even when offline is to use some third party tool which downloads the .flv (flash video) and converts it for you.

  Tim O'Reilly [10.23.06 06:57 AM]

atom probe -- that's Larry's point exactly. One would hope that Google will bring some of their approach to bear.

  Amit [10.23.06 07:15 AM]

I'd agree entirely that "true sharing" amongst content producers (or holders) would be crucial for the future - but only for certain content types. I'm working on relaunching quotationsbook.com as a clean new site in a few months, and recently asked Google Book Search for RSS results at least. They said they were working on it.

Project Gutenberg makes books freely available, and I recently had an email welcoming me to mirror their content and make really useful tools from it (which we will).

The direction we take with decentralization is one that will determine how easy it will be for new startups like mine to make aggregation tools and draw value from repositories.

  mark cuban [10.23.06 08:03 AM]

Its deja vu all over again.

Remember tyhe old excitement over publish and subscribe. Now its import and index

Great article

  Chris Messina [10.23.06 10:34 AM]

This is certainly an important matter -- and one that shouldn't concern only those who live their lives online.

The ethics of what Blake Burris has called "The Web Arts" need to be explored, pushed on and discussed, and Larry has started the conversation.

I've recently talked about similar concerns regarding the outsourcing of creative work to the crowd (so-called crowdsourcing) without truly respecting the ethics of the co-production gift economy.

The notion of share vs collect is an important one, and I would go so far as to agree with Lessig that without being able to move data from one stopping point where you add value to a subsequent point, you really aren't as "2.0" as some in the popular media might give you credit for.

Lastly, Google Video is downloadable, which does, on its surface separate it from YouTube (though there are tools that help you grab YouTube video files). However, it uses proprietary .gvp (Google Video Playlist) and .gvi (Google Video File) files that require the use of their Google Video Player. As more apps start to look like browsers and more browsers are powered by web applications, the Google Video Player is videos.google.com in a separate application and nothing more. That I can't add Creative Commons-licensed video from Google Video to iMovie suggests that GV is really built around the "collect" model, since, given its choice of format, sharing + choice of tools seems entirely missing.

  Joseph Hunkins [10.23.06 05:33 PM]

I predict that Google will, as Yahoo did, wax philosophically until they stop being the darling of Wall Street. At that point *maybe* Larry and Sergey will step in to insist, but I have a hunch we'll see a much more "selfish" Google and many Web 2.0 sensibilities may ... vanish.

  Kevin [10.23.06 06:21 PM]

You reference this, but it bears reminding explicitly. Google Book Search has started to allow .pdf downloading of public domain works, but they have some odd pseudo-license asking the downloader to not spread the content.

  Twan Verdonck [10.25.06 12:03 PM]

Hello Tim,

You MUST see my (12 min.) video on Web 2.0 / consumer driven business models, which I made for my MA research project.

Let me know what you think,

Twan.

http://www.webtwobusinessmodels.com

  len [10.26.06 05:27 AM]

Does this mean SecondLife will need to share the 3D models and scripts for model behavior to be viral?

Somehow I don't think it will work that way. Stickiness is the reason for the success of SecondLife in contrast to the earlier VRML worlds.

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