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Apr 6
2008

Brady Forrest

Brady Forrest

Get Early Access to Fire Eagle

Fire Eagle, Yahoo's new location information brokering service, is still in a closed Beta. Tom Coates, one of the main forces behind Fire Eagle, has supplied me with 20 codes for Radar readers.

As I mentioned last week I think that this is one of the most important location-based products of the year. It recognizes that our location is finally something that we can get and thus we want to share it. If you want a code leave your idea for the best Fire Eagle app.


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  johnny0 [04.06.08 11:44 PM]

Integrate it with the Dash Express...

  Virginia [04.06.08 11:59 PM]

Something optimised for Mobile Safari - or a native iPhod app! yes! - that tells me all the open wifi networks within X blocks / metres of where I'm standing. It would be *ideal* if it were possible for the app to break through whatever I'm listening to through my headphones and say "There's one ten metres from here! Turn left!" (Okay, that could be annoying, but it's better than stumbling around with the iPod held out like a divining rod, bumping into people). But just a list of proximal networks would be great.

The other thing it would do is allow you to report any open networks you stumble upon and contribute them to the database, to get over the irritation of stupid similar services that only have about three open networks registered and thus are totally useless.

  salynch [04.07.08 12:02 AM]

It's not really an app, but I suppose an open API would be nice, so you can use it with, well, anything.

I think there could be some interesting Twitter mashups, such as being able to Tweet your location. You could have the location broadcast as text throught the Twitter system, with a Twhirl option to explode that into a full map. Alternatively, you could mash it up with Twitter local and set it so you only receive tweets that originate from within a certain radius around your last reported position. It would make conferences a bit more interesting.

  peter [04.07.08 12:44 AM]

Hello there. i was thinking of a time-manager that will tell me when i'm 2km away from my meeting location that i'll be in late and warn the people i have to meet. i think this one must have been told many times but it can now easily be done ... on the iphone of course ;)

  Nikos [04.07.08 12:56 AM]

Hello there!

It would be a great idea to integrate it with services like Dopplr. For example, I could share my current location in the city I am visiting, and share it with fellows that follow my trips.

  Rob Cawte [04.07.08 01:03 AM]

I have a site that allows people to find the stuff they want. With Fire Eagle, maybe I will be able to show them stuff they want that is near them. Revolutionary, eh?!

  Jesper [04.07.08 01:32 AM]

I have various discount cards that are valid at so many different shops that I'm never able to remember to use the cards. An application that would allow me to get a list of nearby places where I get a discount would be great.

  Luc Iterian [04.07.08 01:36 AM]

Push references and stories from my friends' feeds about my location. E.g.

Hey - you're in Times Square. Did you know that your friend Alyssa has photos of Times Square on Flickr? Would you like to see them now?

  Simon [04.07.08 01:50 AM]

An app that notifies me of any geocaches nearby my location :)

  Nikos [04.07.08 01:51 AM]

Integrate it with live video streaming services like qik. The qik streaming video page could have a permalink (or embeded) to a google maps page with the location from which the video is streamed.

  thomas schindler [04.07.08 02:47 AM]

When i'm visiting a city it happened more than once that friends of mine where there at the same time but we didn't know.

So i could use a service that notifies me when a friend comes to the city i am currently in or which friends are in the city i'm arriving at.

  iBen [04.07.08 03:08 AM]

We are working on media and qualified contents for travellers. We hope that Fire Eagle permit to send a sort of "multimedia visit guide" when people are in particular places. Fire Eagle take the good way, "geocalised information" can be send on all sort of devices (specially web based devices) and not only PDA GPS.

  Peter Hilton [04.07.08 03:38 AM]

We would like a code so we can integrate with our new order management software - http://www.visiblelogistics.com/ - which we built because we don't think you should have to have an IT department, an army of consultants and a million dollars to use Supply Chain Management software.

We have almost finished developing the Transport Management module, and if we can integrate geolocation for deliveries via FireEagle then we can probably do it at a low-enough cost to have a truly disruptive offering.

  Malcolm [04.07.08 04:32 AM]

I want to explore building a mobile geo targeting tour guide book. This would tell me that 10 yards over the hill is the Picasso museum and then provide me with the Wikipedia description.

  Anne [04.07.08 04:39 AM]

sounds quite interesting...

  Fred Clausen [04.07.08 05:21 AM]

- Create a geo-oriented 'Dashboard' with an aggregation of various data sources pertaining to my immediate area (Upcoming.org events, Wikipedia, Weather, Top Headlines from most local newspaper, Top/Recent reviews from Yelp.com, etc.)

- Have my device use my location in conjunction with EveryBlock to tell me what crimes have been committed in the past week in the area I'm in

- Virtual 'graffiti' notes you can leave in association with a particular location for others to see (remember HP Labs 'Cooltown'? http://www.thefeaturearchives.com/topic/Archive/Computers_In_The_Woodwork_At_CoolTown.html)

- Interactive games Imagine joining a game of 'Capture the Virtual Flag' with 20 other anonymous people who happen to be in midtown Manhattan at the time. (Of course, someone might get shot in the back if they started frantically running around midtown while pressing buttons on a small electronic device)

  ilteris kaplan [04.07.08 05:32 AM]

I would love to have an invite please :)

I was thinking about this idea for a while. Build an application where people can submit and receive trees that with fruits in big cities. You know cherry, apples etc. So that when you send a request to the server you are going to be returned by the closest trees with fruits on them and you can go and enjoy yourself.

The catch is there is a law about those trees and it's they're owned by people until a certain time and if they don't get the fruits until that time it's legal for people to claim ownership of the fruits on the tree.

You can even use a xmpp service to send you notices when trees are available.

  Patrick Breitenbach [04.07.08 05:38 AM]

For cities with bus systems that don't run on strict schedules (aka SF), stick a cheap cell phone in each city bus, map out all the stops and provide a web site that indicates when the buses will arrive.

  Luigi Montanez [04.07.08 06:02 AM]

Integrate with Salesforce.com, so that everyone in a company/organization knows where their team members are at a given time, whether in the office or out in the field. For the users in the field, provide an easy way to view nearby contacts/leads/accounts. On a business trip to Chicago, if you have an extra hour or two to spare, might as well drop in on that client you haven't seen in a year.

  Antoine [04.07.08 06:37 AM]

One idea could be to give the possibility to notify all your friends of where you are. You could arrive in a pub and just push one button on your phone to give your position to your friends. You could do the same when you arrive in a new city.
This could be done using an existant social network (there is choice here).

This service could also be mashed up with web sites providing information on restaurants, bars, etc... You are in town and you are looking for a restaurant to have lunch ? You give your position and you receive information about restaurants around you with advices from users.

  Ezequiel Martín [04.07.08 06:55 AM]

It could be of great use for an application that lets you know about transportation or traffic issues on the basis of your location.

Cheers!!

  David Knight [04.07.08 07:25 AM]

I'd love to have an invite.

The app I would most like to see would be a simple web app that service companies could use to display the exact location of the cable repair man, package delivery guy, etc. If it notified you when they were headed towards your house all the better! There has to be a way to cut down that 4 hour window.

  Thomas Huhn [04.07.08 08:10 AM]

Would love to get an invite!

Best,
Thomas

  Joe [04.07.08 09:01 AM]

One thing that I find annoying is that whenever I visit a city, it's a bit of a pain to email all of my friends in that city to let them know that I'll be there.

It'd be nice to have a service which did this automatically for me when it notices a radical change in my location (ie, when I switch my phone on after I land in New York). That still requires you to maintain a contact list of people in a certain city, but eventually that list would become dynamic as other people update their own locations using Fire Eagle.

  warren [04.07.08 09:06 AM]

I'd like an app that geocodes my photos based on my location history. ie. if I'm in NYC for thurs-sat, all my pictures on those days are geocoded accordingly.

  Mark [04.07.08 09:19 AM]

First, I was going to see if I could integrate it with the WiFi-based location-based services solution I wrote some time ago, Herecast.com. (It seems to share a lot of the same design concepts as Fire Eagle, from what I understand.)

In terms of apps... one I wanted to write was a bus timetables app for Seattle that works well on iPhone. A second was that I wanted to make a calendar app that would vary the timing of meeting reminders depending on where the meeting was (again on iPhone), though I'm not sure if it's technically possible to integrate with iPhone at this time anyway.

  Ajeet Khurana [04.07.08 09:19 AM]

I would like an app that would track the path I took from one point to another and at the end of the journey recommend a superior path (if any) to save time the next time around.

  mikey [04.07.08 09:58 AM]

I think that the privacy controls make this interesting: I wouldn't hesitate to let Fire Eagle always know where I was, if I could be confident that the information was subject to whatever policies I had put in place.

My family could see exactly where I was ("Is he going to be late getting home from work?", "Stuck in a traffic jam?", etc.), work contacts would be limited only to seeing what city I was in, etc.

I would love to see a traffic-analysis app. I would happily give it full access to my location if I knew it was anonymizing the data, and if I benefited by being told about traffic jams, etc.

Mike.

(Invite please, if any are still available!)

  Nikolas Coukouma [04.07.08 02:19 PM]

One of the first things I'll do is write a script/applet/widget for updating your FireEagle location using a hostip.info lookup, perhaps plus MAC address of wireless AP; this seems like the easiest way to automatically update your location based on wherever you sign in from... I wish GPS was more prevalent.

I'd also like to do some work with visualizing locations over time ... at the moment I'm imagining little lights coming on and fading out on a map or globe.

@warren Nokia has an app that autotags phone photos based on nearby towers

  Quinn Lewis [04.07.08 07:49 PM]

I'd like to use my mobile device's location to determine when to forward calls from my home VoIP phone number based on rules. For example, if I'm at work and in a meeting (according to my calendar) then don't forward the call to my cell. However, if I'm available, then forward the call to me. Other rules are possible too.

Also, I've done a number of long road trips and I'm partial to one brand of gas station. I can programmatically access the various locations of the stations but I'd really like to have "the computer" use my (mobile) location to tell me the closest stations (instead of having to do it manually). I'm wondering if I could extend this further. I'd like to determine if I stopped at a station (or elsewhere) and if I did, then knowing how much gas mileage my car gets on the road, "the computer" can determine how much further I could go at the current rate until the next station. Since the gas stations aren't in every state, it would be helpful to know what is the last, closest gas station to my (mobile) location (before heading into some long drought).

  Gagan [04.07.08 10:27 PM]

The feeds from job search, business news will change based on your current location. Thats my idea.

-G

  Gavin Carr [04.07.08 11:25 PM]

What I'm after is discoverable public location that generic web apps can use, perhaps linked in with OpenID or something i.e. some discoverable profile page I have that includes my current public location (to the suburb or city level or whatever), and/or my default public location.

This allows a bunch of interesting stuff in generic web apps e.g. shipping and address forms that default your city and state information for you intelligently; maps that start up where you are now rather than on some static default; timetables that start with nearby stations or routes or lines; calendar apps that update to your current timezone; searches that take into account locality; social networks sites that augment profiles with location information (who in my network is in town who doesn't live here, for example); etc.

I've thought for a long time that location is a game changer in lots and lots of areas. I'm surprised it's actually taken this long.

Gavin.

  MV [04.08.08 08:51 AM]

I'd like it to help me meet people with similar interests. Social networking sites are great for linking with people I know, but the hurdle to meet new people would be lowered if we could list certain interests that we want other people to contact us about.

At the end of the day, FireEagle traces my location with all of the others who listed similar interests and gives me an opportunity to message them.

For instance, if I stopped by the neighborhood coffee shop and had listed sustainability, anyone else who walked by and was interested would be made aware of my interest to be contacted....


It's either got to help me immediately by working to find something I wouldn't have discovered or provide valuable information (research, contacts, new events...) after a day's trek.

  ilteris kaplan [04.11.08 09:14 AM]

Hey Brady,

so I guess you didn't like my idea? You can be honest about it :D

thanks
ilteris

  brady [04.11.08 01:24 PM]

The Fire Eagle team was generous and gave me additional invites. Codes are being sent to everyone who commented. This shoud happen early next week. Sorry for the delay!

  Ajeet Khurana [04.13.08 12:38 PM]

@brady "Codes are being sent to everyone who commented." Wow, that was easy. It is rarely that I ever win a "contest" such as this one. Thanks. Looking forward.

  Soe [04.16.08 11:47 PM]

I would like to integrate with http://where.com api for location aware social brokering. An invite would be much appreciated.

  cruster [05.06.08 03:59 AM]

Hey.
I'm working on an app for sharing hiking related stuff. I already integrate with Flickr for photo purposes, with Dopplr for trip purposes and with Google Maps for visualizing the hikes. Fire Eagle could be the way to go for location purposes.
Got some invite left? Thanks a lot.

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